New campaign & hashtag – #myMLMdream

#myMLMdream

We’re asking people who have left or are in the process of leaving their MLM to send us pics of their unsold product.  Maybe it’s still in boxes.  Maybe it’s hidden in your garage, your spare bathroom, under your bed, in a cupboard.  Wherever it is, it can help others now and we want to see it.

We’ll share your photos across our social media either anonymously or not, whatever you prefer.   We’d love a quote from you as to how this photo makes you feel.

Here’s our first photo, uploaded yesterday:

 

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1 Small Town with 11 Competing Online Younique Parties & 30 Younique reps

….And 10 other MLMs actively trying to recruit.

This a continuation of the series of posts started by Kate Dyson of the Motherload & Timeless Vie (Katiepeakoe).

Part one & Part two are below:

Network Marketing: A Cult for Mums

How Mormons, network marketing & social media combine to sell women a false dream

I first noticed Miramichi when I was on Younique’s “find a sponsor” map and saw it had a crazy number of Younique reps for the size.

Miramichi has just over 17,000 inhabitants.  A check of Google Earth reveals a small town that’s flat but very green – large lots with small houses from every decade.  Like many towns in this part of east-coast Canada, it has been exporting it’s young people out West to the oilfields of Alberta. But this town – like the province it’s in – has fallen on hard times.   It has an unemployment rate of 13% in June 2017

Miramichi’s job board on FB is mostly service jobs – waitress, food service, health workers, caregivers, typically low-paid.

So does it make sense that there are not 1, not 2, not 3 but 30 Younique reps and reps from Stella & Dot, Monat, Epicure, Usborne Books, Jamberry, Mary friggin Kay,  Party Lite, Norwex, Doterra & Plexus?

Of the 30 Younique reps, 10 of them were holding online Younique parties at the same time in Mirimichi.  One rep was holding 2 at the same time.

 

Presenter status comments  Starter Kit  active per 3 months
Presenter 1 white profile is private, no known group  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 2 white unclear if active  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 3 white has a younique party online. Has earned 6 party points and is the only contributor.  Party closes 24 june 2017 younique party  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 4 yellow shares a lot of other MLM pages – pearl opening parties (Dxx’s Precious Reveals), usborne books, tupperware, etc. on her FB page.  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 5 yellow 21 people liked her younique FB page.  No likes on her posts  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 6 white very little on FB page, no party.  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 7 pink has a younique party online.  Has earned 73 party points.  Only contributor is Dxxx.  Party open until 22 June 2017.  Works as a cashier. younique party  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 8 white has no party.  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 9 yellow very few likes on her Younique posts – average 1 or none per post  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 10 white follows a lot of top shills in Younique & Dxxx’s precious reveals – pearl party  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 11 blue has FB group with 182 members.  No likes on any of her recent posts.  Has an open Younique Kudos party that is currently open with no sales. younique party  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 12 white Has a fb group called Presenter 12’s Online Younique party.  18 members.  Last post was January.  A friend posts for her – things like this: “Check out the new skin care line. It’s to die for. Message Presenter 12 if you are interested in them.”  “Let’s help Presenter 12 earn some Younique cash”  Group was created in Sep 2016. younique party  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 13 orange Posts a lot on her regular FB page & insta.  Gets a fair bit of engagement.  Is running an online Younique party that is done on 20 June 2017.  The party has made 73 party points and the only contributor is Presenter 13. younique party  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 14 yellow can’t find much info on FB page  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 15 white Also does Scentsy too.  Has a closed Younique FB group with 339 members.  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 16 white has closed Younique FB group with 12 members.  Shares peal party openings  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 17 yellow could not find info  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 18 white no info  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 19 blue has Younique group with 429 members.  Last posted feb when she listed a bunch of products for sale.   Presenter 30 (white status Younique rep) a member of this group- possible downline?.  No interest in Younique kudos party from this year. younique party  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 20 white has 2 younique online parties going.  One finishes on 19 june, one on 24 june 2017.  First party has had no sales.  Second party has no sales. younique party x 2  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 21 white has younique online party that expires on 22 June 2017.  No sales so far. younique party  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 22 white  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 23 white had party for friend rxx bxxx, made 9190 points.  3 contributors.  Posted party in facebook group for people to sell in Miramichi. younique party is over  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 24 yellow is doing a party for Mxxx and has a FB group for this.  No likes so far. younique party  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 25 white has a Younique online party that ends on 20 June 2017.  has no sales. younique party  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 26 pink no info  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 27 white does not appear to be active  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 28 green has an online Younique party ending 22 June 2017.  Has no sales. younique party  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 29 blue seems to have genuine artistic talent.   Had a younique online party and made 180 party points.  Presenter 29 was the only contributor. younique party is over  $     119.00  $     125.00
Presenter 30 white no info/member of blue status Presenter facebook group, possible upline?  $  3,451.00  $  3,625.00

 

This was the result:

Of the 10 parties currently active in Miramichi, not one had made the minimum 200 pt requirement.

Younique party info

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PARTY OUTCOME

Presenter status comments  Starter Kit  active per 3 months Party Outcome
Presenter 3 white has a younique party online. Has earned 6 party points and is the only contributor.  Party closes 24 june 2017  $     119.00  $     125.00 6 pts – Presenter 3 is only contributor
Presenter 7 pink has a younique party online.  Has earned 73 party points.  Only contributor is Dxxx.  Party open until 22 June 2017.  Works as a cashier.  $     119.00  $     125.00 73 pts, 1 contributor.
Presenter 11 blue has FB group with 182 members.  No likes on any of her recent posts.  Has an open Younique Kudos party that is currently open with no sales.  $     119.00  $     125.00  0 pts.
Presenter 13 orange Posts a lot on her regular FB page & insta.  Gets a fair bit of engagement.  Is running an online Younique party that is done on 20 June 2017.  The party has made 73 party points and the only contributor is Presenter 13.  $     119.00  $     125.00 73 pts, Presenter 13 is only contributor.
Presenter 20 white has 2 younique online parties going.  One finishes on 19 june, one on 24 june 2017.  First party has had no sales.  Second party has no sales.  $     119.00  $     125.00 2 parties, 0 pts.
Presenter 21 white has younique online party that expires on 22 June 2017.  No sales so far.  $     119.00  $     125.00 0 pts.
Presenter 24 yellow is doing a party for Mxxx and has a FB group for this.  No likes so far.  $     119.00  $     125.00 0 pts.
Presenter 25 white has a Younique online party that ends on 20 June 2017.  has no sales.  $     119.00  $     125.00 0 pts.
Presenter 28 green has an online Younique party ending 22 June 2017.  Has no sales.  $     119.00  $     125.00 0 pts.
Presenter 29 blue seems to have genuine artistic talent.   Had a younique online party and made 180 party points.  Presenter 29 was the only contributor.  $     119.00  $     125.00 180 pts.  Presenter 29 only contributor

 

Of the 10 parties, in 3 of them the only buyer was the presenter herself.  7 of the parties had made 0 sales.  If we include the parties where the presenter bought items herself, 10 of the parties had made 0 sales in the time period we checked them. 

In each case the women had purchased starter kits and then had to make sure to generate a certain amount of points every 3 months to stay ‘active’.  The estimated amounts are shown in the table.

All these little payments of money – micro-losses, micro-scams – when added together are thousands.  1000’s of dollars that could have gone to local business in Miramichi, education, or savings.

This time I also decided to look at other MLMs – I assembled what data I could by searching on FB for bots from different companies living in Miramichi.  In some cases I found them though other bots’ friends’ lists.   I’ve put what I found about each one below.

 

STELLA & DOT HUN

She paid $199 to join

Has to generate 500 PVQ every 3 months to stay active.  500 PVQ is approximately $633.60 in Cdn dollars (exhange rate between US & Canadian dollars taken from Bank of Canada website) cos 1 PVQ = 1 USD.

Her FB info:

facebook group for selling.  Not much interest.  Only likes appear to be from her upline in Toronto, Hailey Verity.    Group has 123 members but not much sign of engagement.

Stella and Dot hunfo

Most active S&D consultants in Canada, who didn’t have teams, earned $1481 per year.  The recruiting STARS earned a whopping $10,567 per year which is totally a retirement income in…..ah….er…????

 

MONAT HUNS

Another MLM selling naturally based products blah blah.

Monat Hun 1 not a lot of interest in her FB group
Monat Hun 2 has her own FB group

They each paid at least $125 dollars to join.  Must sell 200 PV per month to be active.  No explanation about what PV is, but most likely 1 PV = 1 USD which is typical of most US based MLMs.

Monat hunfo

 

EPICURE HUN

Epicure is a Canadian MLM.

Epicure hunfo

Her FB info:

Epicure Kitchen – 465 people like page.  Last posted Feb 2017/ had a house fire april.  Runs a lot of competitions to move stock/get interest.

She paid at least $99 to join.

 

USBORNE BOOKS HUN

$79.95 to join

Must sell $500 in the previous 6 months to be active.  If you fail the target they set, they charge you for the full cost of the books.

Usborne books hunfo

68 members of her Usborne Books FB group.

JAMBERRY HUN

To join – $99

To stay “active” the hun must generate $250 Cdn per month in sales.

Jamberry hunfo

Her FB info:

calls herself “Jamberry Independent Team Manager”.  305 likes of page.
last post was asking people to show their best jamberry mani of the month for june. You will win a prize!  No likes or comments.  Post on june 4th
does have some engagement on her other posts, as well as no interest on others.
has a “VIP” group
One woman, HXX HXX from Miramichi, seemed interested in knowing more
also posts trying to sell in Miramichi direct sales
MXXX’s June VIP Jam-bourri!  – party

A Typical Participant in the Jamberry plan in 2014 earned between C$81 and C$1,221 in commissions.

 

MARY KAY HUNS

Miramichi had the luck of having 2 Mary Kay reps trying to sell makeup along with 30 Younique ones.  They each had spent at least $75 to join.

To get commissions, they HAD to have at least 1 recruit.  Must sell $225 per 3 months to stay active as well.

MK admits most women earn “in excess of $100 per year!” !!!!

Mary Kay hunfo

How were the 2 MK huns doing?

has MK facebook page.  44 likes.
has MK facebook page, 14 likes.

For more info on MK, read this.

I couldn’t find much info on the Norwex, Plexus, or Partylite huns but did find this on Doterra:

 

DOTERRA HUN

Had to pay $180 minimum to join + a non-refundable application fee of $35.

Lower level huns can earn up to $1,600 USD annually.  (can totes buy a private island).

Doterra hunfo

Her FB info:

Doterra Hun  – Doterra Oils  1 like on post.   Had a stall at Lion’s club.  41 people like page.  15 views on her live.  Offering ‘sip and chats” and local bookstore.  Very little engagement.
i.e. Asks for RSVPs to a DoTerra event in Fredericton, and offers an exclusive giveaway to anyway who posts below about what they want to learn more about at the event.  No one posts.

Quick maths shows over $10k has flowed out of Miramichi due to MLMs.

 

The Importance of Being Mormon: Jamberry, NuSkin, Forever Living

Our previous post on the Mormon roots, and Mormon religious beliefs, of some of our fave MLMs is here.

 

Today, we’re briefly focussing on Jamberry, NuSkin, and Forever Living.   In this post we’re going to give you links to articles for more in depth reading as well as screenshots of what we’ve found.

 

  1.  Jamberry

Jamberry was started by 3 sisters.

 

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Interestingly, these are all the execs: a bunch of white dudes

 

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According to lds.net, all 3 sisters (and their partners) are members of the Church of the Latter Day Saints.

 

LDSsisters

 

 

We couldn’t find any info on who actually owns the company, so this is unclear.

 

2. NuSkin

 

Mother Jones artice – NuSkin and Mitt Romney, former Presidential candidate

 

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Mother Jones article – Nuskin & MLM schemes

 

Article about NuSkin founder Blake Roney and his new Mormon mission

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Last paragraph of this article: Blake Roney

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Another fluff piece from the Deseret News about Blake Roney

 

Blake Roney, Mission President

 

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3.  Forever Living

 

Mormon Wiki: Rex Maughan

 

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Rex and Ruth Maughn support BYU Television

 

Funding anti-LGBTQ campaign in Arizona

 

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Just launched with Jamberry? Wanna know how much u will earn? READ THIS.

 

In honour of the UK launch of Jamberry today, we put together this little post showing how much a Bot is likely to earn in a year.

Did you know that in Canada, MLMs have to fess up about how much a “typical participant” i.e. your ordinary, average Bot – is likely to earn?

Unfortunately the UK doesn’t seem to have the same concern about it’s citizens, but here’s what we did to give you a rough idea.

We took the Jamberry Comp Plan for Canada – (hard to find, TBH.  We’re sure that’s not deliberate…)

Jamberry Comp Plan

Pulled out the “Typical Participant’s Earnings” statement:

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Here’s the actual numbers in more detail:

 

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Then we threw the numbers into a currency converter run by the Bank of Canada:

 

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So, the lowest typical earnings is £19.34 a year.   Wahoo!  we be rich huns.  Well, in the 15th century, maybe.

 

Let’s convert the highest typical earnings into pounds, cos we are a superstar Jambot “Consultant” and we have successfully guilt tripped most of our friends into buying:

 

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The highest amount we are likely to earn is £536.24 A YEAR.

536 quid.

But wait!

you have to buy a certain amount of Jamberry nailthingies to stay active in Jamberry.  How much was that, again? Want to pay £600 a year for nail stickers? Jamberry is looking for recruits!

£600 pounds.  You have to make sure to buy at least £600 pounds a year of nailwraps to stay active in Jamberry.

SOME QUICK MATHS.

Let’s pretend you are a super awesome Consultant and make £536.24.

£600 –

£536.24

= -£63.76

YOU WILL LOSE 63.76 POUNDS A YEAR.

Well, we’re convinced.  Sign us up!

 

PS. Does anyone in the UK government give a rat’s ass about this?

Of course we think MLMs should be illegal, but if the government is not going to do that, maybe they could at least force MLMs to put their typical earnings front and centre so that people know what they are REALLY signing up to.  Are we crazy?  Are we crazy dreaming of this?  A nice big sign on Jamberry’s website saying “most consulants will lose money in our plan”.

It’ll never happen, cos no one would sign up, and that’s apparently what the UK governmeent wants.

We will keep dreaming.

 

PPS: here’s a jokey video we just made about TV nailwraps launching today!

Want to pay £600 a year for nail stickers? Jamberry is looking for recruits!

More from our Jamberry spy.

 

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Let’s look at that again. She said  NO MANDATORY MONTHLY SALES GOALS, huns!!

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But wait…..

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Oh, okay, we get it.  Only lazy people will have to pay to rejoin so they can flog nailstickers.  Except, as we know, succeeding in an MLM has nothing to do with how hard you work.   Also read this post from Bot Watch, and this.

What our new recruits will probably do is just buy products themselves so they maintain their “status” in Jamberry.

And then, to try and get their money back, they’ll flog their unused product on eBay.

Or on Facebook.  Try a search for “Jamberry de-stash”.

Don’t do it huns.  There are a million better ways to spend £600.

 

 

Inside a Secret Jamberry Facebook Group…pre UK launch

The more we find out about MLMs and the Bots who are their real customers the sadder we feel.  We can’t help but empathize with the Bots, who are after all just ordinary people trying to make their lives better.  We understand their hope for life to change, and their hope to be able to spend more time with their families.

Their hope.

-Maybe THIS time they’ll be successful in an MLM.  They’re in first.

-It’ll be different this time right?

-BUT…Do they invite potential recruits?

-If they invite potential recruits it might create more competition …which is bad

-On the other hand, they need more interest in Jamberry

-CONFLICTED

-Just build relationships! It will all be fine!

-But…there is no guarantee that will pay off

-Because it’s an MLM

 

 

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One of their issues – Jamberry nailstickers are on Ebay for pennies.

 

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More to come about Jamberry.

 

Jamberry arrives in the UK – here is our response huns!

OMG huns! There is a tremor in the force – Nail wraps are arriving in the UK!! Even though we already have lots of them.

Yeah yeah yeah we can hear the haters.  “What’s so great about Jamberry? nargle nargle nargle, I can get nail stickers for 1 pound at Claire’s”  in their hater-talk.

Well, we can tell you what’s so great.  It’s an MLM, which means it can exploit help mums stay home and work around their kids 19 hours a day. while making people in the USA RICH RICH RICH!!

And as always, if you are the first joiner you stand to make wadloads of cash from ur downlines!!!  Top of the pyramid is the top money spot, right, babeez?

So LOVE.

 

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isn’t it amazing?  We were freaking out, wondering how we were going to counter this new threat to our VIEStars (TM)

 

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So we immediately called our factory in Malaysia and put in an order for our very own Timeless Vie NailArts so we are ready.  We r calling it our VIEStar(TM) Collection, in honour of all our wonderful recruits giving us their money.

BUT – we’re kicking it up a notch cos we see any opportunity as a selling opportunity.  That’s where we’re gonna win over Jamberry.  Cos our VIESTar Collection nails are gonna be like tiny billboards for the whole TV range.

NailArt 1: a subtle green colour with a piece of our organic parslai stuck in the center.  It’s a touch of hawaii if hawaii were a herb.

NailArt 2: our slightly off-centre TV logo on a gorgeous pale background!  Jamberries will be so jelly huns!

TVNAILARTS

 

And for the grand finale:  NAILART 3

We’re doing a big promotion on X-Purge 11,  so all our VIEStars(TM) can wear X-Purge 11 bottles ON THEIR NAILS.   Imagine the advertising reach in the summer, in open toed shoes!!!!!! So NOW.

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luv ya huns xo