Original source article from Bot Watch here

Ethan Vanderbilt talks about getting someone out of an MLM here


1.  Keep your expecations low – i.e.  don’t aim to get them out of the MLM.  We understand you want them out, like, STAT, because it’s like they’ve been taken over by zombies, but you need to let that dream go.


2.  Realise you’re in this for the long haul.  It’s going to take more the one chat to help them see what the MLM is doing to them.


3. DO NOT ACT AS IF THEY ARE STUPID AND YOU ARE SMARTER THAN THEM. DO NOT DO IT.  DO NOT.  Trust us on this.  Remember your friend has been subjected to  mind games.


4.  Know your enemy.  Learn about MLMs.  We have a ginormous list of blogs and resources, start there.


5.   Be kind to yourself.  It can be difficult dealing with a loved one in an MLM, and watching them be pulled in further and further, so be gentle with yourself.


6. Realise your friend is not who they used to be.  Again, they’ve been mindset-trained to fuck, so you need to tread carefully.


7.  DO NOT CRITICISE THEIR MLM.  If you have to, criticise another MLM instead.


8.  Don’t buy their products or join their team.  Two reasons: 1. you are supporting MLMs and their unethical ‘business’ model by doing so and you don’t want that; and 2. you will be subjected to the same tactics as they were to draw you in.  Don’t do it.


9.  Keep in contact at a distance.  Keep the door open to them, while protecting yourself from MLM BS.   By doing so they may come to you if they start having doubts/need support.


10.  Talk about things you used to do with them, shared memories etc.  Remind them of life before MLM.


11.  Talk about their new life from another angle.  I.e. instead of saying “wow you are posting on social media like all the days, like, oMG” say something like “what have you been doing with the kids lately?” or “what does your boyfriend think about all this”  but be careful.




Why Forever Living don’t sell Aloe Vera products for health purposes


I have established in previous posts that Forever Living do not hold the correct licences to sell products for health purposes. I detailed the laws covering the regulations for this in the UK and stated why it is important to follow these rules. Previous blog posts here and here.

But WHY don’t Forever Living hold the correct paperwork to sell their products for health purposes?  Surely, if the products are as good as they say they are, a licence should be easy to come by?

A possible explanation was put forward by a Forever Living rep on her team’s facebook page-


She thinks- “The reason we can’t make medical claims is because, we as a company would need to hold a pharmaceutical certificate…If you hold one of these- you cannot sell products outside of a pharmacy”.

I disagree. It is possible to obtain a licence called a Traditional Herbal Remedy…

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The Truth behind Forever Living Adverts

Read this, #VIEStars!


9c84aa745cc8d32e79a3b2965cddae86This advert is pretty common and very easy to find on Google. On the face of it, the advert shows Forever Living in a pretty good light, making it look like a good, solid choice for a way of making an income. However, if you look at the claim a little critically, you can see it is not that great after all.

Let’s look at the points one by one.

  1. Uncapped and willable income

Uncapped pretty much means nothing.  You work harder and harder and you get more money.  This is not an unusual concept.  It is capped by your finances, time available, effort put in, opportunities for recruiting, home circumstances, performance of your downline, availability of customers etc etc etc.

Willable presumably means that when you die, the money being generated by your downline can be given to your dependents. People think this is great and it…

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Are you or someone you know in an MLM? Having doubts?

To all those still stuck in MLMs and feeling like there is something wrong- this is a post that may help you clarify your thoughts.



Is your business not going as well as you hoped it would? It is ok to wonder why this might be. It is ok to assess what you are doing and what is best for you. It is not ‘negative thinking’ to evaluate what is happening and move forward.

Successful people like Alan Sugar, Richard Branson etc do not just go with one idea and persevere. They have advisors and seek others’ opinions and adapt their strategies according to the evidence around them. Here are some things for you to think about, and links for further information, should you wish to find out more.

1. You may have been told that you can work your business around your family, using spare time or just working a few hours a week to earn great money. Pretty quickly you will find out that to get anywhere, you need to spend a vast…

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