“Like Ladders”, Facebook swaps and other ways Bots try to appear more successful than they actually are

 

 

Rule number ONE in MLM is what, huns?

 Fake it til you make it.

There’s a problem with this though – after all,  how do you fake new recruits to your team? fake sales? hundreds of new likes? new followers on Twitter?   Those things are quite a lot harder to “fake”, right?  That’s certainly the way it appears on the outside and why so many MLMs are successful in recruiting more and more victims.

BUT.

We have received tips to the contrary from our supporters,  and these tips along with our own sleuthing have led us to what we believe are the answers.  We know how Bots, ‘successful’ or not,  fake FB “likes”, sales, etc and we’re going to tell you as well so when you see it happen, you understand how it’s just another game being played and you can warn your friends.

 

  1.  LIKE LADDER.  LIKE MY PAGE AND I’LL LIKE YOURS.  ONLY WE’LL DO IT IN A SECRETISH GROUP SO NO ONE KNOWS.

 

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2. JUST BUY SOME LIKES.  SERIOUSLY.

One example of a business that sells fake Facebook likes

We contacted a social media manager we know and asked for her input on this issue.  Here’s her response (she asked to remain anonymous):

 

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Then she showed us a graph, from Facebook,  of an MLM bot she knows and who has had a recent increase in likes.  See the obvious spike (468.9% increase in a WEEK)?  That indicates the Bot bought them.

 

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As she put it:

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That is a huge red flag for likes-buying.

*full disclosure: we have bought advertising on FB for Timeless Vie – mainly to boost our posts (the ones FB accepts, that is, ar ar) and once to boost our page.   We have never ever bought likes and we never will.

 

3.  HEY FELLOW MLM-BOT, HEEELP ME.  JOIN MY TEAM. BUY MY STUFF OR MY UPLINE WILL GO CRAY.   I WILL SEND YOU STUFF IN RETURN. LET’S PLAY SWAPSIES.

 

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^^ there was another screenshot of the Jewelscents bot above begging more people to join her team and literally posting every. single. day. but it was just too depressing to post.   Blah.

 

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4.  SELL OFF YOUR STUFF  ON FACEBOOK GROUPS COS MLMS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON EBAY, THE BASTIDS (AND BECAUSE NOBODY ACTUALLY WANTS TO BUY IT)

 

We removed the name of the group below deliberately.  Why? Because we feel for these women who need to make back their money.   We’re on their side.   From what we saw on Facebook, many of these women are selling their DS stock at a loss to themselves.

 

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I swear we are not picking on Younique deliberately, but there was just SO MUCH STUFF people were trying to move: (below is just one of the many, many, many posts we screenshot).

 

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Or people were just trying to swap their stock for other stock:

 

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So, there you have it.  Behind the scenes of many a Bot is a desperate merry-go-round of likes-laddering, likes-buying, selling stock at a loss while avoiding MLM compliance twats, and swapping stock with other Bots in the same boat.  Oh and recruiting each other to their teams.   All seems totally legit, right?  Exactly like a successful real business works.

 

 UPDATE: a supporter sent us this screenshot – showing a jump in “likes” for a particular MLM bot who sells herself as a successful business coach.   Hmmm…a 235.6% increase in a week?  Seems suspicious.  Also, note the low engagement rate for her page.    She has over 10,000 likes, but ony 286 people are actually talking with her page, which seems extremely low compared to the number of likes.  This may indicate a large number of her likes come from buying and “like ladders” with other bots.  It may also mean many of the likes are from fake FB profiles.

 

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For comparison, here are the stats from our Timeless Vie facebook page.   We have nearly the same number of people talking about our page as the Bot above,   yet our number of likes is much lower.  This shows genuine engagement by the people who like our page.   Also, note that our increase in likes is only 2.8% from last week.  There are no big jumps.

 

 

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It’s Not About You.

A guest post from a supporter:

 

It’s not about you.

 

This is a reply to all the bots out there who complain, ‘you are picking on me, it’s bullying, you are jealous haters’ etc, from Timeless Vie to Botwatch to Ethan Vanderbuilt to every other anti-MLM campaign out there.

It’s not about you.

Let us be crystal clear.

It’s not about you, though  its easy to see why you might think our campaign is about you. The MLM, your upline, your trainers, they all gave you the same message, ‘its about you, if you fail it’s because of something you didn’t do.’

This is not true.

However we understand it might be an easy mistake to make.

We know that your training encourages you to put yourself out there, we see your Facebook where you have reinvented yourself as a public figure, we see your carefully curated image with absolutely no negativity, making it look as if you were fabulously successful.

We see you putting your kids out there too, as part of your brand, seriously compromising you and your family’s privacy! Because hey, the business is the most important thing isn’t it? We see you with your carefully crafted prose and artful photography, to make it look as if you have a lifestyle that isn’t really yours.

We see that sometimes you write things creatively, (we would say deceptively), in order that your potential downline would assume that something was true, when it wasn’t, that the car in the car dealership was yours, that the trappings of wealth that you told them they could have if only they joined you wasn’t really leased or rented. We know how rife this is, we get messages every week, ‘my friend is renting a house but her downline thinks its hers.’ ‘This isn’t her car.’ ‘Her husband pays for everything.’ ‘They were already wealthy.’ ‘She bought her promotion.’ ‘I am so angry, that’s not her kitchen, but she acts as if it is, check out this YT video’

But hey, it’s okay if my downline thinks I own this house and car, you say to yourself. You didn’t lie, did you? You never ACTUALLY said that. If they assume, then the fault is on them, right?

Back to the subject. It’s not about you, it isn’t and it never was.

We’re not interested in attacking you, we would embrace you with open arms and comfort and support you too, should you come to your senses, just like your downline who left.

We know you have been coached to think your downline were bitter and lazy and had failed. Even so,  we would support you. After all we have seen you in your training videos, looking more exhausted and stressed as the months passed. We saw you desperately put a positive spin on your downline leaving. We heard you mumble through a training at 3am. We feel for you too. So should this shitshow that you are in crumble to dust and you can bo longer do it, we will be there for you.

We never ‘attacked your business’. Because we don’t even think MLM is a business, it’s a game, a slight of hand trick, a scheme, a racket, where recruits are drawn in with illusions and deception.

But this still isn’t about you, it’s about the actions of victims who are caught up in MLM schemes. The actions of the owners of these schemes. The actions of the trainers. We raise the awareness of these actions that are used to deceive people and draw them in and take their money. We share your trainers’ scripts, we use parody and satire, because we want to educate without resorting to personal attacks. If your actions are raised and criticised then this is not a personal attack on you, it is a criticism of your actions, which you used to deceive people into signing up.

We are only interested in truth.

Not spin, not illusion, only truth. And because MLM does not share the truth, then we will do it.  Does the truth hurt you?  Stay with that feeling, and if you can, think about why that might be.

It’s not about you.  But if you come to us for help, we promise to support you.

Timeless Vie ♥ Love Mail

 

Here’s a small selection of the #lovemail we’ve been getting since we started Timeless Vie, our imaginary fab and amazing fake MLM.   Read and weep, haterz! 😉

 

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To our #VIEStars – thanks for all your support.  We could not do it without you, and your bravery in coming forward with your stories, your tips, and your ideas.   What you are doing IS making a difference.   Every person who steps forward to talk gives courage to another.   Every person who likes our page or shares our blog or follows us on Twitter increases our reach to other possible victims of MLMs.

We couldn’t include all the #lovemail because much of it has personal details that we won’t share.   We know, cos you tell us, that many of you aren’t able to like our page for fear of upsetting friends or family in an MLM.  We understand.  Everyone does what they can.  xo xo.

We think you all rock.  Thank you.

ps.  free X-Purge 11, our best-selling imaginary 3-day cleanse, to all of you.

 

pps.  just kidding.

 

pps.  we agree MLMs should be illegal.

 

luv ya huns xo xo.

 

 

In Memory of All Those We Have Lost to MLMs: a gangsta rap

No one can hold our #VIEstars down, no one can stop them expressing their rage at losing their friends  in whatever art form they choose.  WHATEVER ART FORM THEY CHOOSE, BEOTCHES!   Yeah.  YEAH.

Take it away, PowertotheParslai.

A gansta rap in loving memory of all those we have lost to MLMs.

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Thanks, Power.  Here’s our crappily-rendered TV bird, just for you hun xxxx

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#VIEStars….Timeless Vie launches our new product range!!

Huns!  We’re launching a new product range of TVie branded shite stuff for you to buy.  It’s our beautiful pigeon design splattered across whatever we could think of, and then marked up 400% !  SO GREAT.

TRUE #VIEStars will have all of it in their homes. ALL OF IT.

Huns, when u join Timeless Vie, u join a family.  A real family, better than your old hater family that doesn’t understand how great it is to be in an MLM.   A family that has the same values as you.  It’s like how in some places gangs wear certain clothes and stuff so they know which gang they belong to?  Well it’s kinda like that for us.  It’s how we know who belongs with us. 🙂 🙂 🙂

Timeless Vie pillow: only 45 pounds for our VIEstars!  Made of some kind of fabric.  Put it on all your couches and chairs!

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Our fab TVie skirt – in 150% easy-care polyester.   Only 158 pound.  Great for mindset training, baby group-recruiting, and selfies.

 

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And finally….sleep and dream of TVie with our duvet cover.  U should be eating, sleeping and breathing the parslai, huns.  Only 250 pounds.  Nylon shell.

 

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More products to come….

p.s. U better not put any of it on eBay #VIEStars.

p.s. U better not buy any of it cheap on eBay either.

EXCITING NEWS!! New supah secret Secret Illegal Prescibing Facebook groups 4 #VIEStars!

VIEStars,  great news!!!  You can pretend you are a doctor and prescribe our fab Timeless Vie products for diseases!   Remember our extrait du parslai can cure and help with pretty much anything, so don’t be shy, #VIEStars!   EXCEPT just do it in private cos people get all angry and say we aren’t real doctors blah blah blah /hatertalk

Just contact ur upline for access to our Secret Illegal Prescribing Facebook group, see below.

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Thanks again to Forever Living for showing us how xo.

luv ya huns.

 

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PR EMERGENCY – All top bots & shills please read

Haters are rampaging across social media and saying our bots are fakers and MLMs are scams etc This is an emergency huns!!!!!!!!

We need you to copy the shills below and do big posts on Facebook right now.  Show your downline and random lurkers the real bot behind your selfies, your rented barn conversions, and your leased Timeless Vie cars.   Show them the damaged, vulberable you we sucked in  empowered.   This is an emergency !  Do it now!  Utah needs this sorted!

 

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Remembering the past, looking to the future – Timeless Vie goes GLOBAL!

Once upon a time, a long long time ago,  we were just a small, baby MLM in  Salt Lake City, Utah, USA.  We were so cute!!.  We just had a few downlines and one main product: X-Plurge 11, our 3-day-cleanse made from 100% extract du parslai, which happens to be 500x stronger than real parsley, just sayin’.

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And then we introduced MasKara, made from 100% real parsley stems.  That blew everyone away cos no one knew parsley stems could actually stick to people’s eyelashes.

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Anyway, what an amazing journey it’s been, bringing our parsley shite to the UK.  And now we have so many downlines and products and branded mouse pads and stuff, we just have so much money, you don’t even know.

But we want to be even richer than we are, and own resorts and stuff like Forever Living.

So now…the WORLD!

We looked at Forever Living to see what they were doing, because it’s just easier to copy them.    And here’s what we’ve learned  – even the poorest poorest poor people ever can make money for us.  Even, like,  in places where there’s no clean running water or proper houses or roads or shit like that, there’s still people who could sling parslai for us.  Just like this nice lady who is selling Forever Living in Africa.  This is not exploitation at all.

 

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There’s a lesson in this, #VIEStars.  The lesson is this: no matter how low we go, we can always go lower.   

Now get recruitin’, Africa is like, huge.

 

luv ya huns xo.