….And 10 other MLMs actively trying to recruit.
This a continuation of the series of posts started by Kate Dyson of the Motherload & Timeless Vie (Katiepeakoe).
Part one & Part two are below:
Network Marketing: A Cult for Mums
How Mormons, network marketing & social media combine to sell women a false dream
I first noticed Miramichi when I was on Younique’s “find a sponsor” map and saw it had a crazy number of Younique reps for the size.
Miramichi has just over 17,000 inhabitants. A check of Google Earth reveals a small town that’s flat but very green – large lots with small houses from every decade. Like many towns in this part of east-coast Canada, it has been exporting it’s young people out West to the oilfields of Alberta. But this town – like the province it’s in – has fallen on hard times. It has an unemployment rate of 13% in June 2017
Miramichi’s job board on FB is mostly service jobs – waitress, food service, health workers, caregivers, typically low-paid.
So does it make sense that there are not 1, not 2, not 3 but 30 Younique reps and reps from Stella & Dot, Monat, Epicure, Usborne Books, Jamberry, Mary friggin Kay, Party Lite, Norwex, Doterra & Plexus?
Of the 30 Younique reps, 10 of them were holding online Younique parties at the same time in Mirimichi. One rep was holding 2 at the same time.
| Presenter | status | comments | Starter Kit | active per 3 months | |
| Presenter 1 | white | profile is private, no known group | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 2 | white | unclear if active | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 3 | white | has a younique party online. Has earned 6 party points and is the only contributor. Party closes 24 june 2017 | younique party | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 4 | yellow | shares a lot of other MLM pages – pearl opening parties (Dxx’s Precious Reveals), usborne books, tupperware, etc. on her FB page. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 5 | yellow | 21 people liked her younique FB page. No likes on her posts | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 6 | white | very little on FB page, no party. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 7 | pink | has a younique party online. Has earned 73 party points. Only contributor is Dxxx. Party open until 22 June 2017. Works as a cashier. | younique party | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 8 | white | has no party. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 9 | yellow | very few likes on her Younique posts – average 1 or none per post | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 10 | white | follows a lot of top shills in Younique & Dxxx’s precious reveals – pearl party | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 11 | blue | has FB group with 182 members. No likes on any of her recent posts. Has an open Younique Kudos party that is currently open with no sales. | younique party | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 12 | white | Has a fb group called Presenter 12’s Online Younique party. 18 members. Last post was January. A friend posts for her – things like this: “Check out the new skin care line. It’s to die for. Message Presenter 12 if you are interested in them.” “Let’s help Presenter 12 earn some Younique cash” Group was created in Sep 2016. | younique party | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 13 | orange | Posts a lot on her regular FB page & insta. Gets a fair bit of engagement. Is running an online Younique party that is done on 20 June 2017. The party has made 73 party points and the only contributor is Presenter 13. | younique party | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 14 | yellow | can’t find much info on FB page | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 15 | white | Also does Scentsy too. Has a closed Younique FB group with 339 members. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 16 | white | has closed Younique FB group with 12 members. Shares peal party openings | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 17 | yellow | could not find info | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 18 | white | no info | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 19 | blue | has Younique group with 429 members. Last posted feb when she listed a bunch of products for sale. Presenter 30 (white status Younique rep) a member of this group- possible downline?. No interest in Younique kudos party from this year. | younique party | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 20 | white | has 2 younique online parties going. One finishes on 19 june, one on 24 june 2017. First party has had no sales. Second party has no sales. | younique party x 2 | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 21 | white | has younique online party that expires on 22 June 2017. No sales so far. | younique party | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 22 | white | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | ||
| Presenter 23 | white | had party for friend rxx bxxx, made 9190 points. 3 contributors. Posted party in facebook group for people to sell in Miramichi. | younique party is over | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 24 | yellow | is doing a party for Mxxx and has a FB group for this. No likes so far. | younique party | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 25 | white | has a Younique online party that ends on 20 June 2017. has no sales. | younique party | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 26 | pink | no info | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 27 | white | does not appear to be active | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | |
| Presenter 28 | green | has an online Younique party ending 22 June 2017. Has no sales. | younique party | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 29 | blue | seems to have genuine artistic talent. Had a younique online party and made 180 party points. Presenter 29 was the only contributor. | younique party is over | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 |
| Presenter 30 | white | no info/member of blue status Presenter facebook group, possible upline? | $ 3,451.00 | $ 3,625.00 |
This was the result:
Of the 10 parties currently active in Miramichi, not one had made the minimum 200 pt requirement.
PARTY OUTCOME
| Presenter | status | comments | Starter Kit | active per 3 months | Party Outcome |
| Presenter 3 | white | has a younique party online. Has earned 6 party points and is the only contributor. Party closes 24 june 2017 | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | 6 pts – Presenter 3 is only contributor |
| Presenter 7 | pink | has a younique party online. Has earned 73 party points. Only contributor is Dxxx. Party open until 22 June 2017. Works as a cashier. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | 73 pts, 1 contributor. |
| Presenter 11 | blue | has FB group with 182 members. No likes on any of her recent posts. Has an open Younique Kudos party that is currently open with no sales. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | 0 pts. |
| Presenter 13 | orange | Posts a lot on her regular FB page & insta. Gets a fair bit of engagement. Is running an online Younique party that is done on 20 June 2017. The party has made 73 party points and the only contributor is Presenter 13. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | 73 pts, Presenter 13 is only contributor. |
| Presenter 20 | white | has 2 younique online parties going. One finishes on 19 june, one on 24 june 2017. First party has had no sales. Second party has no sales. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | 2 parties, 0 pts. |
| Presenter 21 | white | has younique online party that expires on 22 June 2017. No sales so far. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | 0 pts. |
| Presenter 24 | yellow | is doing a party for Mxxx and has a FB group for this. No likes so far. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | 0 pts. |
| Presenter 25 | white | has a Younique online party that ends on 20 June 2017. has no sales. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | 0 pts. |
| Presenter 28 | green | has an online Younique party ending 22 June 2017. Has no sales. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | 0 pts. |
| Presenter 29 | blue | seems to have genuine artistic talent. Had a younique online party and made 180 party points. Presenter 29 was the only contributor. | $ 119.00 | $ 125.00 | 180 pts. Presenter 29 only contributor |
Of the 10 parties, in 3 of them the only buyer was the presenter herself. 7 of the parties had made 0 sales. If we include the parties where the presenter bought items herself, 10 of the parties had made 0 sales in the time period we checked them.
In each case the women had purchased starter kits and then had to make sure to generate a certain amount of points every 3 months to stay ‘active’. The estimated amounts are shown in the table.
All these little payments of money – micro-losses, micro-scams – when added together are thousands. 1000’s of dollars that could have gone to local business in Miramichi, education, or savings.
This time I also decided to look at other MLMs – I assembled what data I could by searching on FB for bots from different companies living in Miramichi. In some cases I found them though other bots’ friends’ lists. I’ve put what I found about each one below.
STELLA & DOT HUN
She paid $199 to join
Has to generate 500 PVQ every 3 months to stay active. 500 PVQ is approximately $633.60 in Cdn dollars (exhange rate between US & Canadian dollars taken from Bank of Canada website) cos 1 PVQ = 1 USD.
Her FB info:
| facebook group for selling. Not much interest. Only likes appear to be from her upline in Toronto, Hailey Verity. Group has 123 members but not much sign of engagement. |
Most active S&D consultants in Canada, who didn’t have teams, earned $1481 per year. The recruiting STARS earned a whopping $10,567 per year which is totally a retirement income in…..ah….er…????
MONAT HUNS
Another MLM selling naturally based products blah blah.
| Monat Hun 1 | not a lot of interest in her FB group | |
| Monat Hun 2 | has her own FB group | |
They each paid at least $125 dollars to join. Must sell 200 PV per month to be active. No explanation about what PV is, but most likely 1 PV = 1 USD which is typical of most US based MLMs.
EPICURE HUN
Epicure is a Canadian MLM.
Her FB info:
| Epicure Kitchen – 465 people like page. Last posted Feb 2017/ had a house fire april. Runs a lot of competitions to move stock/get interest. |
She paid at least $99 to join.
USBORNE BOOKS HUN
$79.95 to join
Must sell $500 in the previous 6 months to be active. If you fail the target they set, they charge you for the full cost of the books.
| 68 members of her Usborne Books FB group. |
JAMBERRY HUN
To join – $99
To stay “active” the hun must generate $250 Cdn per month in sales.
Her FB info:
| calls herself “Jamberry Independent Team Manager”. 305 likes of page. |
| last post was asking people to show their best jamberry mani of the month for june. You will win a prize! No likes or comments. Post on june 4th |
| does have some engagement on her other posts, as well as no interest on others. |
| has a “VIP” group |
| One woman, HXX HXX from Miramichi, seemed interested in knowing more |
| also posts trying to sell in Miramichi direct sales |
| MXXX’s June VIP Jam-bourri! – party |
A Typical Participant in the Jamberry plan in 2014 earned between C$81 and C$1,221 in commissions.
MARY KAY HUNS
Miramichi had the luck of having 2 Mary Kay reps trying to sell makeup along with 30 Younique ones. They each had spent at least $75 to join.
To get commissions, they HAD to have at least 1 recruit. Must sell $225 per 3 months to stay active as well.
MK admits most women earn “in excess of $100 per year!” !!!!
How were the 2 MK huns doing?
| has MK facebook page. 44 likes. |
| has MK facebook page, 14 likes. |
For more info on MK, read this.
I couldn’t find much info on the Norwex, Plexus, or Partylite huns but did find this on Doterra:
DOTERRA HUN
Had to pay $180 minimum to join + a non-refundable application fee of $35.
Lower level huns can earn up to $1,600 USD annually. (can totes buy a private island).
Her FB info:
| Doterra Hun – Doterra Oils 1 like on post. Had a stall at Lion’s club. 41 people like page. 15 views on her live. Offering ‘sip and chats” and local bookstore. Very little engagement. |
| i.e. Asks for RSVPs to a DoTerra event in Fredericton, and offers an exclusive giveaway to anyway who posts below about what they want to learn more about at the event. No one posts. |
Quick maths shows over $10k has flowed out of Miramichi due to MLMs.
Timeless Vie 